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So I was talking to my business partner/friend Mike Rundle last night about business issues over at Business Logs and decided it was a good time to have a beer. Well if it was a good time to have a beer then it was most definitely a good time to redesign Forever Geek I figured because we all know that black, white, red color scheme wasn’t really working too well and everything was just too cluttered.
I wanted to get back to simplicity because that is what I like, but I also wanted to finish it before the sun rose. What a fun task. However, I didn’t completely finish it, but I like it better than the old design already. If you are using Firefox then come check it out. If you are using IE you might want to stick with the RSS feeds ;-).
Since I haven’t slept yet and have been up for 24 hours I think I will take a nap and finish up when I wakeup, so please have some patience as I will hammer out the fixes sometime this year.
For those of you who missed it, here was the last design:

Good night…errrr…good morning.
Category: Forever Geek
26 Responses for "FG Late Night Redesign"
September 30th, 2004 at 7:25 am
1Looks nice. I liked the last design, but it did seem as though every single link and piece of text on the page would compete for prominence. The logo and the content have again taken the major role in this redesign, so good work. You might want to remove the border on the bottom of the “email this to a friend” form though; it competes with the top border of the page footer. Other than that, looks great, and it reminds me of classic Scrivs style :).
September 30th, 2004 at 8:22 am
2I liked the old one a whole lot better. :( It had much more personality and was a lot more unique.
September 30th, 2004 at 8:24 am
3Sweet, but standard… :-(
I like this design better, from a ‘user perspective’. I like this design less, from a ‘design perspective’.
It is very ‘you’, but (imho) a little bit too much: “Daring Fireball_Whitespace++”
Not dorky enough to be nerdy.
But again: reads fine, navigates fine. As usual :-)
I suppose the new advertising (no Google_ads, the ’sponsored boxes’) is going to be in here somewhere?
September 30th, 2004 at 8:32 am
4Found your site today via blogcatalog and I’ll def be back for more. !! Keep up the good work
September 30th, 2004 at 8:40 am
5It’s just like Derek and David said, it’s not as unique as the old one but it’s pretty and I like it. Don’t know which one I prefer though…
September 30th, 2004 at 8:49 am
6Nice job Paul, especially the look of the active tab. This makes me so glad I blog here as well ;-)
September 30th, 2004 at 9:19 am
7Good job Scrivs. I have found an odd thing happening with the menu on Safari 1.2.3 on OSX 10.3.5.
When I mouseover store, and the dropdown comes out, after i mouseout of it, the right hand side (about 15-20px) is still showing until i either scroll down and back up, or resize the window.
Just an FYI
September 30th, 2004 at 10:21 am
8Thanks, this is much easier to read. Though I can not picture the design before last in my mind, but I feel like it is similar as in being plain and less distracting in reading.
September 30th, 2004 at 10:27 am
9In my opinion the old design was better. I do not visit the site very often nor am I a subscriber to the feed, but the old design just looked more like “geek”.
September 30th, 2004 at 10:32 am
10Paul-
I think this one trumps the last one by a good margin. Nice work!
September 30th, 2004 at 10:57 am
11Looks sweet. Reminds me a bit of Daring Fireball, which is nice. I like how much cleaner it looks.
The only thing I’m kind of having a problem with is how large the FG logo is. It’s a tad distracting.
September 30th, 2004 at 11:07 am
12Love the new design. Much easier to read and navigate. Plus is just very attractive. Also I can open it up at work now without feeling like people looking over my shoulder think I’m looking at a video-game website. Hurray! Great job!
September 30th, 2004 at 11:36 am
13FREEDOM!!!
That last design was too cramped for my tastes.
September 30th, 2004 at 12:18 pm
14Glad to see the mixed reactions to this one, means you peeps care about the site. Really I was being greedy and needed something that was easier to read for myself :-)
I know it has less of the crazy, cluttered geek appeal, but I think it works better on so many other levels than the previous design. Oh well, that’s what you get for 5 hours of late night work with some beers.
September 30th, 2004 at 12:20 pm
15And yes there are some more graphical changes (eg. icons and such) coming.
September 30th, 2004 at 12:43 pm
16I like that it’s more open as well as cleaner. It’s still pretty dark, but definitely better.
September 30th, 2004 at 1:04 pm
17Next time you redesign, paul… use a new CSS file name… it’ll stop us poor souls in corporate environments from having to refresh the page a half dozen times to convince the proxy server to give up its old copy. :-)
Ditto for any logo changes
September 30th, 2004 at 1:31 pm
18I actually did start with a new stylesheet, but at 2am I got lazy. Sorry about that.
September 30th, 2004 at 3:32 pm
19I love it. Never really did like the last design much, but it did have character as some people have mentioned.
So, I’ld probly throw in some more detail. Give this design a little more character. Throw in some obscurities that only us geeks would probly notice.
I love the color tone. It feels nice. But maybe try using some other colors to accentuate things a little bit.
But mainly, I think it’s just missing a little character. Well done though.
September 30th, 2004 at 3:38 pm
20Any suggestions on adding character? I have ideas, but my ears are always open.
September 30th, 2004 at 4:30 pm
21The thing I just realized, this site and John Gruber’s may be literally the only 2 weblogs that I read that doesn’t have some sort shade of white as the main content area’s bg. Most use actual white, while some like Zeldman just a really light shade of their basic color.
It’s a nice change of pace and overall I like the design, but I really think for a content/text-heavy site a light background with dark text is easier to read. Maybe it’s just me.
October 3rd, 2004 at 6:08 pm
22you killed the search box : (
October 4th, 2004 at 12:52 am
23Ummm, how did I kill it? Works for me.
October 4th, 2004 at 2:11 am
24The search box doesn’t display at all in IE. Might want to fix that.
October 20th, 2004 at 12:14 pm
25as far as refreshing half a dozen times, any address with a query string breaks cache
so… http://forevergeek.com/forever_geek/fg_late_night_redesign.php?noPlaceLike=localhost
would bust every item in cache first time around…
October 20th, 2004 at 12:40 pm
26that wouldn’t affect the files included in the page, which is the issue with CSS based redesigns when you don’t change the name of the CSS file.
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